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michelle, who i believe you worked with at the pentagon, tell me why i have it wrong or at least why you worry that hagel wouldn't be the right pick for this position. >> i don't know i would say ezra that hagel is the wrong pick, i just don't think he is the best pick. i think there are others around there who would have many of the upsides that hagel has, without the down sides that hagel has. if mitt romney had won and chosen him, i would have applauded him as real courage. chuck hagel has a lot going for him. he is a brave guy, a principled guy. there is a lot to like about him. he is also a republican, and the democratic party has worked really, really hard over past decades to erase the deficit, in which voters consistently said they trusted republicans more than democrats on national security. democrats have worked really hard to erase that gap, but picking chuck hagel seems to me to be sending a message i can't figure out president obama wants to send, i can't figure out why. and even a democratic president can't be sure that a democrat is going to do a good job leading our e
michelle, who i believe you worked with at the pentagon, tell me why i have it wrong or at least why you worry that hagel wouldn't be the right pick for this position. >> i don't know i would say ezra that hagel is the wrong pick, i just don't think he is the best pick. i think there are others around there who would have many of the upsides that hagel has, without the down sides that hagel has. if mitt romney had won and chosen him, i would have applauded him as real courage. chuck hagel...
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and i think most importantly, has earned the respect of the troops and the brass at the pentagon. >> is the real point here he's somebody because of that who has the credibility so that if he's the one who has to remake defense going forward, if he's to talk about cuts to systems he has that extra credibility? >> i think he does and that matters. we had great secretaries of defense that didn't serve. it's an important part as we enter this period. i think that with the real thing here, we take a step back, just look how far the republican party has moved in the last six years. you talked about a republican saying you're out of the mainstream means one thing, you're in the mainstream. because they've left. in 2006, john mccain was talking about chuck hagel as his secretary of state and now he's someone who he thinks is disqualified. from a big picture, the republicans have moved the neocons have such a hold on that party and i don't think that's mainstream thinking in america. >> do you think there is an element of political payback here? >> sure, listen, some of this is situation nor
and i think most importantly, has earned the respect of the troops and the brass at the pentagon. >> is the real point here he's somebody because of that who has the credibility so that if he's the one who has to remake defense going forward, if he's to talk about cuts to systems he has that extra credibility? >> i think he does and that matters. we had great secretaries of defense that didn't serve. it's an important part as we enter this period. i think that with the real thing...
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what is striking to me as well, hagel doesn't have experience in what he's tasked to do, running the pentagon. president obama involves we're not getting involved in syria or push too hard, his main job is to run pentagon. >> he was enlisted in vietnam, and distinguished service, two purple hearts and knows what it's like to be an enlisted man and fighting on the ground and have those people foremost in his mind. >> no one questions his courage or his record, but running the department of several million people and 550 billion dollar budgets, and he has never served armed servi services in the nate and never run anything as big as the pentagon and he's presumably someone the white house thinks is going to do what the white house wants him to do and leon panetta and bob gates before were willing to push back anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. live the regular life. phillips'. by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...b
what is striking to me as well, hagel doesn't have experience in what he's tasked to do, running the pentagon. president obama involves we're not getting involved in syria or push too hard, his main job is to run pentagon. >> he was enlisted in vietnam, and distinguished service, two purple hearts and knows what it's like to be an enlisted man and fighting on the ground and have those people foremost in his mind. >> no one questions his courage or his record, but running the...
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the pentagon does the overuse of drones. so, we can use them, say, in afghanistan. where there is a declared military action. but in pakistan or any place where it's used in a covert way, that's the cia. and most of those decisions are made in mr. brennan's basement office, under the oval office in the west wing and he's the one who's got to put together what has become known popularly as the list and i'll work with president obama and others on how they want to narrow those. a lot of debate. if you kill a terrorist and then he's replaced by his driver and the next drone goes in after him, is that a legitimate target? >> well, i think the other question that jane harman brought up earlier, should any of this stuff be done under the cia or done at the pong where, frankly, more accountable perhaps in place? >> well, chuck, the drone war is the least covert covert operation the u.s. has ever run. every drone strike done by the cia or just about everyone is reported in the newspapers or some journal -- >> can't hide them. they're not small things. >> the most covert one
the pentagon does the overuse of drones. so, we can use them, say, in afghanistan. where there is a declared military action. but in pakistan or any place where it's used in a covert way, that's the cia. and most of those decisions are made in mr. brennan's basement office, under the oval office in the west wing and he's the one who's got to put together what has become known popularly as the list and i'll work with president obama and others on how they want to narrow those. a lot of debate....
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seen is a lot of republicans who are justly opposed to that kind of cutting essentially posing all pentagon cutting and what i was saying in the piece today is that just because the sequestration cuts are bad doesn't mean that the defense budget is sacrosanct. it can be cut by a significant amount. >> neil: it would help the republicans make the argument we are open for cutting spending for things we hold dear and you should be open to cutting spending for things you hold dear. this doesn't seem to resonate in an atmosphere where there is no cutting going on period. >> the leading budget hawk who talk about this, basically they say back in 2007 the height of the iraq war the troop surge was going on, a very expensive proposition. the base pentagon budget was $431 billion and that did not count the cost of the wars in iraq and afghanistan but the base was 43 $431 billion. today the base is $551 billion. people are saying why should it be so much more today than it was in the peak war years of 2007. to get back to the 2007 spending levels would require significant cuts. >> neil: real quickly,
seen is a lot of republicans who are justly opposed to that kind of cutting essentially posing all pentagon cutting and what i was saying in the piece today is that just because the sequestration cuts are bad doesn't mean that the defense budget is sacrosanct. it can be cut by a significant amount. >> neil: it would help the republicans make the argument we are open for cutting spending for things we hold dear and you should be open to cutting spending for things you hold dear. this...
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tracie potts is live in washington this morning with more on how his pentagon and cia nominations could prompt the next big fight on capitol hill. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, we could hear more about that here today. chuck hagel bringing up concerns from democrats and republicans. and as for john brennan, we're seeing the aclu and others speak out about that nomination. protests outside the white house questioning whether john brennan spoke out loudly enough against controversial interrogation tactics. that's why brennan dropped out last time he was considered to head the cia. this time, he's courting both sides. >> although i consider myself neither a republican nor a democrat, i very much look forward to working closely with those on both sides of the aisle. >> reporter: but brennan's confirmation may not be as tough as chuck hagel's for secretary of defense. >> mr. president, i'll always give you my honest and most informed counsel. >> reporter: he backed some cuts at the pentagon, an issue congress will deal with next month. >> as a successful businessman, he knows we h
tracie potts is live in washington this morning with more on how his pentagon and cia nominations could prompt the next big fight on capitol hill. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, we could hear more about that here today. chuck hagel bringing up concerns from democrats and republicans. and as for john brennan, we're seeing the aclu and others speak out about that nomination. protests outside the white house questioning whether john brennan spoke out loudly enough against...
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jennifer griffin at the pentagon. thank you. do you think the president should speed up the process of having afghan take control of the security? let me know on twitter. to me at bret baier. the politics, west virginia senator rockefeller will not seek a sixth term. the leader of the congressional delegation tells fox he is interested in the job. we learn the "state of the union" address is tuesday february 12, on lincoln's birthday. stocks were mixed today. the dow gained 17. s&p 500 was down a fraction. the nasdaq was up four. democratic state legislator wants her colleagues to take away the freedoms of conservatives and libertarians. we'll tell you where and why later in the grapevine. up next, it's official. the flu outbreak is now an epidemic. victor! victor! i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a mascot! ohhh! eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with rice and beans. hmmm. for giant hunger! thanks mom! see ya! whoaa...oops! mom? i'm ok.
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>> bret: jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. thank you. south carolina republicans senator lindsey graham has been one of the most ardent critics of how the administration has handled the benghazi attack. he joins us live tonight from columbia, south carolina. good evening, senator. >> thank you for having me. >> senator let's first start with your reaction to the release of this tunisian. >> i don't know if it's justified or not but it's like pulling teeth to get the administration to engage. it wrote the tunisian government and saying it was unsemiable not to grant an interview without a lawyer. they did give the f.b.i. access to this man. i don't know the result of the interview butly try to get to the bottom of it. i didn't take much effort to get the tunisians to cooperat cooperate. i manual what would have happened if the president of the united states would have picked up the phone and called the prime minister to say this is a priority for the country. >> bret: do you think the administration that the national security effort of th
>> bret: jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. thank you. south carolina republicans senator lindsey graham has been one of the most ardent critics of how the administration has handled the benghazi attack. he joins us live tonight from columbia, south carolina. good evening, senator. >> thank you for having me. >> senator let's first start with your reaction to the release of this tunisian. >> i don't know if it's justified or not but it's like pulling teeth to get the...
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that's it for the pentagon. yes, there is a great desire with john brennan to demilitaryize the cia. >> now, speaking of afghanistan in town today. hamid karzai at the pentagon today and on the hill and later will be at the state department for dinner with hillary clinton. he was with leon panetta today. this comes shortly after he sat down with our own atia and just ehave is rated u.s. policy. >> he has a problem with this new team, though. you remember a couple of years ago three senators went and met with him, and there was -- for dinner. karzai in kabul. there was -- they raised the issue of corruption in his government, and it became a big incident. joe biden, hagel, and john kerry? zeefs later sent as a private envoy to smooth things over with karzai. >> true, but this is -- karzai must look at the leadership of the second obama administration and see a message coming for him then. what the troop levels will be after 2014 and will there even be u.s. troops there? >> ruth marcus, the white house is telling
that's it for the pentagon. yes, there is a great desire with john brennan to demilitaryize the cia. >> now, speaking of afghanistan in town today. hamid karzai at the pentagon today and on the hill and later will be at the state department for dinner with hillary clinton. he was with leon panetta today. this comes shortly after he sat down with our own atia and just ehave is rated u.s. policy. >> he has a problem with this new team, though. you remember a couple of years ago three...
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the fight and for and against hagel at the pentagon. start with an afghan war veteran, anthony schafer, friend of the program. and now with the cent ef of advance defense studies and john saltz, chairman of votevets.org. tony, do you like the pick? is this good for america? >> yes, it is. i think the fact may be as you said man with no party he speaks the truth and most important to
the fight and for and against hagel at the pentagon. start with an afghan war veteran, anthony schafer, friend of the program. and now with the cent ef of advance defense studies and john saltz, chairman of votevets.org. tony, do you like the pick? is this good for america? >> yes, it is. i think the fact may be as you said man with no party he speaks the truth and most important to
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he said the pentagon needs to be pared down. senator hagel also endorsed a report by the group global zero that called for cutting the u.s. weapons arsenal by 80%. the overall goal of global zero, as its name implies, global zero, is global zero nuclear weapons. but this 80% cut in our arsenal is a way to get there is something that chuck hagel has supported. what is the new face of the american military going to be after the end of the longest war in american history, which is afghanistan? the second longest war in american history is vietnam. to have three vietnam veterans in the cabinet running veterans, running state, running defense is a remarkable milestone for veterans of that war, just as a population group, and one that didn't necessarily get treated right by this country when their time at war ended. but for all of us, for all of us, no matter how old we are, for all of us, whether or not we had any connection to the vietnam politics the first time around, for all of us there is the question now of whether the presiden
he said the pentagon needs to be pared down. senator hagel also endorsed a report by the group global zero that called for cutting the u.s. weapons arsenal by 80%. the overall goal of global zero, as its name implies, global zero, is global zero nuclear weapons. but this 80% cut in our arsenal is a way to get there is something that chuck hagel has supported. what is the new face of the american military going to be after the end of the longest war in american history, which is afghanistan? the...
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what's going on with the pentagon about how many troops they want to leave and people are pushing for proposals. the question is what's the mission after 2014. if it's a counter terror mission, the vice president wanted where chuck hagel is going. what's happening in the next 24 months? we have a lot of officers embedded with afghan units to protect a security blanket. at what point do we transition off and go to an assist and what is our relationship post 2014? we can leave contractors on the ground, but iraq didn't deteriorate like people said. there have been no attacks since they left. i'm happy with where we are at. i hope we go to and put the pressure on the afghans. there is a type of stalemate. >> there is the hope, but what is the reality pointing to the continued effort or whatever role we would have as you pointed out s. how realistic is that in afghanistan? >> i don't think we go to zero because there will be a counter trr mission. there is a mission in the afghan and pakistan region. is it a suffice counter terror force with a force package? that takes us out of the natio
what's going on with the pentagon about how many troops they want to leave and people are pushing for proposals. the question is what's the mission after 2014. if it's a counter terror mission, the vice president wanted where chuck hagel is going. what's happening in the next 24 months? we have a lot of officers embedded with afghan units to protect a security blanket. at what point do we transition off and go to an assist and what is our relationship post 2014? we can leave contractors on the...
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and his business experience will help him prioritize pentagon spending cuts that everyone knows is coming. >> even though we make tough fiscal choices we have to do so wisely guided by a our stlaj and keep the military the strongest fighting force. >> reporter: but it drew immediate fire. it was a 14-year-old comment about a diplomat being aggressively gay which hagel has apologized and his opposition in iraq and troop surge and independents what he called the jewish lobby and called for talks with hezbollah. all which led lindsay graham and in your face nomination, that the number two republican senator frankly skeptical. >> i think the president has much better choices as secretary of defense than to choose somebody who fails when it comes to the number one security issue mainly a nuclear iran. >> he praised john brennan's tireless work as counter-terrorism director. >> reporters ask you, you don't get any down time. john said, i don't do down time. [ laughter ] >> brennan will face questions about drone strikes that may be more properly direct at the president. republicans may use the
and his business experience will help him prioritize pentagon spending cuts that everyone knows is coming. >> even though we make tough fiscal choices we have to do so wisely guided by a our stlaj and keep the military the strongest fighting force. >> reporter: but it drew immediate fire. it was a 14-year-old comment about a diplomat being aggressively gay which hagel has apologized and his opposition in iraq and troop surge and independents what he called the jewish lobby and...
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and there's an expression at the pentagon called hair on fire. when people get all excited over essentially little or nothing, and when the dust settles, you're able to deal with the facts. i think people should be very proud of this nomination of senator hagel. he brings to this not only experience as a veteran, as someone who served in uniform, but as somebody who understands the reality of the world. with regard to his position on iran and on sanctions, he's made clear that he supports this president and he supports the toughest multilateral sanctions that have ever been imposed on this country -- on that country. >> should we not care if his personal views run contrary? especially when it comes to, benjamin netanyahu says there's a six-month time period, some say it could be longer. there has to be a decision made on iran. it doesn't matter what he personally would do as long as he does what the president has already said he would do which is military options on the table? >> we ought to respect the fact that the president has chosen him as a
and there's an expression at the pentagon called hair on fire. when people get all excited over essentially little or nothing, and when the dust settles, you're able to deal with the facts. i think people should be very proud of this nomination of senator hagel. he brings to this not only experience as a veteran, as someone who served in uniform, but as somebody who understands the reality of the world. with regard to his position on iran and on sanctions, he's made clear that he supports this...
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there's a tremendous amount of bloat in the pentagon and that has to be scaled back." hagel would also be tasked with managing the withdrawal of 66,000 u.s. troops from afghanistan by 2014. it is a position on which hagel has disagreed with the president, having opposed obama's troop surge in his first term, but it is on the issue of the iraq invasion that hagel has dramatically severed ties with his own party. a defection likely to cause some problems on the right along with earlier statements on the "jewish lobby." regardless of all of this, the white house thinks hagel's nomination will pass. talking points circulated by the administration earlier this morning highlight hagel's combat service, his bipartisan appeal
there's a tremendous amount of bloat in the pentagon and that has to be scaled back." hagel would also be tasked with managing the withdrawal of 66,000 u.s. troops from afghanistan by 2014. it is a position on which hagel has disagreed with the president, having opposed obama's troop surge in his first term, but it is on the issue of the iraq invasion that hagel has dramatically severed ties with his own party. a defection likely to cause some problems on the right along with earlier...
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the same report, the pentagon's own report shows after the u.s. troop surge in afghanistan, violence in that country was actually higher than it was before the surge, not lower than it was before the surge. so in what case was the surge a success? so it is a bit rich that the reason we can afford to speed up the ending of this war is because things have worked out so well in this war. it's a bit rich. but you know what? the supposed reason we could leave iraq is because of the stable democratic iraqi government we left behind, right? success of the surge and all that. well, the day after we left iraq, the prime minister of iraq issue and arrest warrant for the vice president of iraq, the very next day after we left. so that little story we told ourselves on the way out of that war, that was pretty rich too. but knowing that, do you wish we were still in iraq? do you wish we hadn't left? more importantly, even we do not hit any of the supposed benchmarks that we tell ourselves irrelevant for why and when we can leave, peace in the provinces, or the
the same report, the pentagon's own report shows after the u.s. troop surge in afghanistan, violence in that country was actually higher than it was before the surge, not lower than it was before the surge. so in what case was the surge a success? so it is a bit rich that the reason we can afford to speed up the ending of this war is because things have worked out so well in this war. it's a bit rich. but you know what? the supposed reason we could leave iraq is because of the stable democratic...
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. >> reporter: you won't see aaron nearborn featured in one of the pentagon's recruiting commercials. >> boxing those up, getting those out today. >> reporter: but what he has been doing for two years in this vast, unheated warehouse in oakland, california, has provided crucial supplies for thousands of men and women in uniform and in harm's way. trauma kits and stretchers. ballistic eye protection. and tarps to repair ripped tents. spare parts for a failing generator that would have taken months for the regular supply chain to provide. >> this generator powers their communications, their intelligence, their daily operations, everything. we're literally able to ship it to them within 72 hours. >> reporter: it all started when one of nearborn's marine pals deployed to afghanistan and asked for some needed items. nearborn sent them. word got around through e-mails and a new website there was an outfit called troops direct that could bypass the usual military red tape and get you what you and your unit needed pronto. like this sergeant who told us via skype from afghanistan that nearborn
. >> reporter: you won't see aaron nearborn featured in one of the pentagon's recruiting commercials. >> boxing those up, getting those out today. >> reporter: but what he has been doing for two years in this vast, unheated warehouse in oakland, california, has provided crucial supplies for thousands of men and women in uniform and in harm's way. trauma kits and stretchers. ballistic eye protection. and tarps to repair ripped tents. spare parts for a failing generator that...
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yesterday visited the pentagon and thursday making calls to old senate colleagues. one problem with that. of the senators who will sit in judgment of hagel's confirmation, 42 of them never worked with him. with me now, moderator of "meet the press," david gregory, had an exclusive interview with colin powell there to make the case for chuck hagel. one thing about taking the step back if you will about this week and what we're seeing with the president in this cabinet. there is no equivocation when it comes to placating the washington establishment. he is doing what he wants, regardless -- there is no gates, no hillary. everything else the first four years was about keeping washington in check. not this time. >> presidents have a way of getting re-elected and deciding how about i do what i want to do. how about i choose who i'm comfortable with. and they have extra confidence that they can do that. and they should be able to do it. and -- >> there is sort of -- you know, it's -- by the way, it's also why they've had this diversity issue a little bit, not thinking abo
yesterday visited the pentagon and thursday making calls to old senate colleagues. one problem with that. of the senators who will sit in judgment of hagel's confirmation, 42 of them never worked with him. with me now, moderator of "meet the press," david gregory, had an exclusive interview with colin powell there to make the case for chuck hagel. one thing about taking the step back if you will about this week and what we're seeing with the president in this cabinet. there is no...
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pentagon recommendations range from 3,000 to 9,000. and if deployed, scott, at least a third of those would be devoted to finding and killing the remnants of al qaeda and its affiliates. >> pelley: major, thank you. there are 66,000 americans in afghanistan tonight. the u.s. invasion after 9/11 came 11 years and three months ago. 2,174 americans have given their lives there. more than 18,000 have been wounded. and the war has cost $560 billion.ñr what has the u.s. purchased with that sacrifice? well, in one province of afghanistan there is enormous progress. it's called bamiyan and it was once famous for its ancient colossal statues of buddha which were dynamited by the taliban in 2001. we asked kelly cobiella to show us what's been achieved there and what might be at risk as america pulls out. >> reporter: high in the mountains of central afghanistan in one of the poorest regions of the country thousands of girls are learning to speak english. how long do you study english? >> here from fourth grade until 12th grade students learn en
pentagon recommendations range from 3,000 to 9,000. and if deployed, scott, at least a third of those would be devoted to finding and killing the remnants of al qaeda and its affiliates. >> pelley: major, thank you. there are 66,000 americans in afghanistan tonight. the u.s. invasion after 9/11 came 11 years and three months ago. 2,174 americans have given their lives there. more than 18,000 have been wounded. and the war has cost $560 billion.ñr what has the u.s. purchased with that...
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and, you know, this is not -- this is a pentagon political issue inside the corridors of the pentagon. it requires managed expertise. does the secretary of defense really understand where the various political levers are in the pentagon that he needs to work on? where the influence is? how a budget is formed? who has the power? inside the military, in this very complex process and can he impact it? when you hire a secretary of defense, to some large extent you are hiring someone for that management expertise. the pentagon is one of the largest organizations in the world, and you need somebody who knows how to run it. that's what a secretary of defense does. the other big issue that he's walking into that people will be watching very closely, how he will advise on committing the use of military force. you know, we're talking about all these big grandiose issues. what if the first day on the job the syrian regime implodes and you have a crisis where chemical weapons might theoretically be on the loose, heaven forbid? what is chuck hagel's advice, how does he advise president obama, how
and, you know, this is not -- this is a pentagon political issue inside the corridors of the pentagon. it requires managed expertise. does the secretary of defense really understand where the various political levers are in the pentagon that he needs to work on? where the influence is? how a budget is formed? who has the power? inside the military, in this very complex process and can he impact it? when you hire a secretary of defense, to some large extent you are hiring someone for that...
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plus the pentagon wants karzai's word that the afghan security forces will keep the taliban from setting up shop as soon as the u.s. pulls out its troops. [ inaudible ] >> reporter: keep in mind secretary of state hillary clinton and secretary of defense leon panetta are both leaving their post within weeks. how the president's nominees could effect u.s. troop withdrawal. live in washington kyla campbell. >>> the pastor who was supposed to deliver the benediction at president obama's inauguration is now backing out. that is after remarks made by the reverend louie surfaced that he made two decades ago condemning the same sex rights movement. spokeswoman for the presidential inaugural committee says they didn't know about his past comments. she says he was chosen by his conferences attract tens of thousands of young people. >>> three years after a devastating earthquake haiti is still in dire straits. they are in need of medicine, and food and clean water. human rights groups are holding solidarity civiles across -- vigils across the world. activists say the red cross received hundreds of
plus the pentagon wants karzai's word that the afghan security forces will keep the taliban from setting up shop as soon as the u.s. pulls out its troops. [ inaudible ] >> reporter: keep in mind secretary of state hillary clinton and secretary of defense leon panetta are both leaving their post within weeks. how the president's nominees could effect u.s. troop withdrawal. live in washington kyla campbell. >>> the pastor who was supposed to deliver the benediction at president...
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i don't know what his management experience is regarding the pentagon, little if any. so i think it's an incredibly controversial choice. and it looks like the second term of barack obama is going to be an in-your-face term. >> well, senator hagel is a straight talker from the midwest. he'll give you an unvarnished opinion, and very outspoken. but he has stated his unequivocal total support for israel, saying critics have completely distorted his record. graham predicted other republicans would have a hard time with hagel's nomination. and it just makes you wonder what is really behind all this. senator graham complained that hagel had cut ties with the republican party. but obviously president obama isn't under any requirement to nominate anybody from any party, especially the republicans in the first place. maybe republicans don't like the fact that hagel won't be so eager to get us into another confrontation overseas. here is more from the president. >> he understands that sending young americans to fight and bleed in the dirt and mud, that's something we only do wh
i don't know what his management experience is regarding the pentagon, little if any. so i think it's an incredibly controversial choice. and it looks like the second term of barack obama is going to be an in-your-face term. >> well, senator hagel is a straight talker from the midwest. he'll give you an unvarnished opinion, and very outspoken. but he has stated his unequivocal total support for israel, saying critics have completely distorted his record. graham predicted other republicans...
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hate the people trying to stop the president from picking this guy for the job he needs done at the pentagon, but i do recognize their tactics. they're the same ones they used to push the war in iraq. they say they don't like something he said hagel did 14 years ago about a gay man being put up for ambassador. i don't like it either, but, a, it was 14 years ago, and, b, i don't think it's got anything to do with why the hawks are opposing him. since when is the right wing of this country is caring for gay rights? as bill clinton would say, give me a break. and this isn't about israel's security any more than it's about ours. the right wants a hawk at defense for all occasions. someone with an itchy trigger fing mother has always got a country lind up to go to war with, iraq, afghanistan, iraq again, libya, syria, iran. sorry, the guy you lined up to be president would have picked a person you'd want as defense chief, a real genuine hawk, but mitt romney lost, didn't he? he lost. so keep firing off those anti-hagel columns and editorials, my right wing brothers, and don't worry, you won't get
hate the people trying to stop the president from picking this guy for the job he needs done at the pentagon, but i do recognize their tactics. they're the same ones they used to push the war in iraq. they say they don't like something he said hagel did 14 years ago about a gay man being put up for ambassador. i don't like it either, but, a, it was 14 years ago, and, b, i don't think it's got anything to do with why the hawks are opposing him. since when is the right wing of this country is...
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he awaits recommendation from the pentagon and commanders on the ground as to the kind of military footprint they will need in afghanistan after 2014. and the white house has left open the possibility that the whoit white will leave troops there. nominees for security of state john kerry and chuck hagel. they are likely to favor a faster withdrawal of u.s. troops. republicans are urging caution and say we need to prevent al-qaida from moving back in afghanistan. >> they moved to north africa and moving back would not be difficult if we had a vacuum. we need to make sure the troops we train there are capable of filling the vacume of the u.s. forces when they leave. >> president obama and karzai endorsed the idea of opening a taliban political office in the country of qatar to encourage them to work th us and not against us. >> thank you, molly very much. >> the great gun debate continues as vice-president biden wraps up his task force. joining us is the radio talk show host. welcome to the two of you. great to have you here today. >> wooltalk at what is in play right now. do you expect the wh
he awaits recommendation from the pentagon and commanders on the ground as to the kind of military footprint they will need in afghanistan after 2014. and the white house has left open the possibility that the whoit white will leave troops there. nominees for security of state john kerry and chuck hagel. they are likely to favor a faster withdrawal of u.s. troops. republicans are urging caution and say we need to prevent al-qaida from moving back in afghanistan. >> they moved to north...
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give some thought to the possibility they'd like to have a pentagon chief who knows just what that's like. and that's "hardball for now," thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to you fr tuning in. tonight's lead show down over defense. today, the president officially nominated his choice for defense secretary. vietnam veteran and former gop senator chuck hagel of nebraska. already, republicans are signaling a major fight over his nomination. they apparently think the president should have the right to pick his own team, even though hagel has all the qualifications for the job. >> chuck hagel is the leader that our troops deserve. this day, chuck bears the scars and the shrapnel from battles he fought in our name. chuck hagel's leadership of our military would be historic. he would be the first person of enlisted rank to serve as secretary of defense. one of the few secretary who is have been wounded in war. and the first vietnam veteran to lead the department. in chuck hagel, our troops see a decorated combat veter
give some thought to the possibility they'd like to have a pentagon chief who knows just what that's like. and that's "hardball for now," thanks for being with us. "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris. and thanks to you fr tuning in. tonight's lead show down over defense. today, the president officially nominated his choice for defense secretary. vietnam veteran and former gop senator chuck hagel of nebraska. already, republicans are...
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you put a republican at the pentagon in a time you're trying to slink thrink the pentagon. the president thinks that will help. and the president's not afraid to pick a fight with some republicans. i think if you look at both of them and add in senator kerry, the new secretary of state, it's a comfort leave. you're not worried about satisfying every political interest group. you want people you like and you trust. >> you heard ari fleisher, our cnn contributor, the former bush white house press secretary say for all practical purposes, and i'm paraphrasing him now, hagel really isn't a republican anymore. >> well, this is a great divide and a great debate in the republican party. would he say the same about dick lugar, a respected republican voice? would he say the same about colin powell who served reagan and george h.w. bush and then george w. bush in republican white houses? thought himself about running for the republican nomination for president one day. who have views like chuck hagel. in the last 10 year, there's been as if na fascinating divid. chuck hagel would fit
you put a republican at the pentagon in a time you're trying to slink thrink the pentagon. the president thinks that will help. and the president's not afraid to pick a fight with some republicans. i think if you look at both of them and add in senator kerry, the new secretary of state, it's a comfort leave. you're not worried about satisfying every political interest group. you want people you like and you trust. >> you heard ari fleisher, our cnn contributor, the former bush white house...
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. >> coming up, california congressman before questioning the top job at the pentagon being derail the president's second-term agenda. as we begin this hour we'll take you straight to the white house where after a week of meetings with gun control advocates, representatives of the gaming industry and other groups, vice president biden will submit his recommendations to the president as early as tuesday for ways to prevent gun violence moving forward. kristen welker joins us with more on that. let's start out with what we can expect to come, again, this tuesday deadline is pretty self-imposed by the gun task force and the president himself, and all of them trying to make the president's state of the union when it comes up at the end of the month. >> reporter: that's right. we're expecting the vice president to put forth a broad set of proposals including legislative proposals that will call for reinstating the ban on assault weapons, limiting access to high-capacity magazines. one of the ideas that's moving to the forefront, though, thomas is the idea of having universal background chec
. >> coming up, california congressman before questioning the top job at the pentagon being derail the president's second-term agenda. as we begin this hour we'll take you straight to the white house where after a week of meetings with gun control advocates, representatives of the gaming industry and other groups, vice president biden will submit his recommendations to the president as early as tuesday for ways to prevent gun violence moving forward. kristen welker joins us with more on...
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. >> if hagel gets confirmed, do you think you could help him go the job of reforming at the pentagon and saving some money? >> yes, i think -- well, in the first few months i won't be there long enough even if i get it. but the job there is to run interference for him. >> by the way, some basic politics you understand, chris, cutting existing weapons systems with all the web of contracts out there can be hard, but what you can do is not start new once. it's easier to block projects that shouldn't be done going forward than to start them and i certainly will be there if i hope he's going to continue to support the notion of an early withdrawal from afghanistan. not keep 20,000 troops there forever at a cost of billions and finally i think it's time to re-examine a nuclear deterrent which we still maintain basically at the strength we needed to defeat a fully nuclear armed soviet union and the troops in europe. i misspoke when i said pull the troops out of nato. i want us to stay in tay toe but let the western european nations keep the troops in western europe. let's have a genuine coo
. >> if hagel gets confirmed, do you think you could help him go the job of reforming at the pentagon and saving some money? >> yes, i think -- well, in the first few months i won't be there long enough even if i get it. but the job there is to run interference for him. >> by the way, some basic politics you understand, chris, cutting existing weapons systems with all the web of contracts out there can be hard, but what you can do is not start new once. it's easier to block...
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hagel to take a place at the pentagon. as almost score setting matter i almost hope he does. it would confirm a point i made earlier this column earlier this year, that mr. obama is not a friend of israel. >> you could hardly think of another leading contender for that position who would be, who would raise more eyebrows than chuck hagel when it comes to israel. you heard earlier jennifer griffin quoting the line about the jewish lobby, which is interesting because millions of americans who are christians and not jewish are also supporters of israel. there is the conflation between the jewish lobby and israel lobby which is very disturbing. there is broader record especially concerning iran would make anyone concerned for the security of is rainfall and the relationship between israel and the united states worried about his position as secretary of defense. jon: but this is a guy who served two terms in the senate. >> right. jon: he is a decorated vietnam veteran, a purple heart recipient. >> two purple hearts. jon: two purple hearts. why not put him in at the top job in the
hagel to take a place at the pentagon. as almost score setting matter i almost hope he does. it would confirm a point i made earlier this column earlier this year, that mr. obama is not a friend of israel. >> you could hardly think of another leading contender for that position who would be, who would raise more eyebrows than chuck hagel when it comes to israel. you heard earlier jennifer griffin quoting the line about the jewish lobby, which is interesting because millions of americans...
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this contradicts the pentagon's position. it's always maintained that some u.s. troops need to stay beyond 2014 to keep an eye on al qaeda. and some lawmakers say they worry about the reputation of the u.s. around the -- around the world if things fall apart in afghanistan after the troops day. >> i'm worried today if we draw from afghanistan or not a leader around the world, our enemies will move on the march and the allies will be wondering if they can trust americans to be standing by them. >>> what was supposed to be a thrilling ride ended in tragedy in russia. one man died and another one was injured after a transparent ball called a zorb cleared off a -- veered off a cliff. the fatal accident has some government officials demanding russia strengthen the safety rules for winter sports. the sport originated in new zealand in the '90s and has since gained popularity around the world. >>> a loophole in an old california law dealing with rape. >> we're now prosecuting rape based on 140-year-old laws that's not making sense. >>> and suing your rescuer. why insura
this contradicts the pentagon's position. it's always maintained that some u.s. troops need to stay beyond 2014 to keep an eye on al qaeda. and some lawmakers say they worry about the reputation of the u.s. around the -- around the world if things fall apart in afghanistan after the troops day. >> i'm worried today if we draw from afghanistan or not a leader around the world, our enemies will move on the march and the allies will be wondering if they can trust americans to be standing by...
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i don't think the choices are no defense at all or do drastic defense cuts there are things in the pentagon you probably could deal with. i'm somebody who is a reaganite, i believe defense spending equates to capability. i don't want to shirk on weapon's capability or shirk on compensation for people putting their life on the line, but i have embraced what senator coburn wants to do, audit the pentagon. u.s. a very big bureaucracy. ask people who served on active duty in iraq, afghanistan, or on the home front. it's a big bureaucracy and a lot of times our military is successful in spite of the bureaucracy, but not because of it. i wouldn't say you can't look at defense, but if you think we'll balance the budget just by cutting defense, one, i don't think you can get there, but, two, we will be inviting danger from abroad, rather than protecting the people if we do that. >> you think we'll have a big fight over entitlements, social security, medicare? that will be coming up with the debt ceiling? part of the debt ceiling negotiations? >> i think we need to restructure some of the entitlemen
i don't think the choices are no defense at all or do drastic defense cuts there are things in the pentagon you probably could deal with. i'm somebody who is a reaganite, i believe defense spending equates to capability. i don't want to shirk on weapon's capability or shirk on compensation for people putting their life on the line, but i have embraced what senator coburn wants to do, audit the pentagon. u.s. a very big bureaucracy. ask people who served on active duty in iraq, afghanistan, or...
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hagel says the pentagon budget is bloated. some democrats and gop members don't think he will support israel, one of our nation's allies that's come under attack from terrorist groups and leaders on both sides of the aisle criticize his toughness when it comes to cracking down on iran. >> i consider him to be an honorable man with a distinguished record of service, but also at the same time profoundly wrong on some of the biggest national security threats confronting the united states today, namely a nuclear iran. >> reporter: chuck hagel says an accurate assessment of his record will show he's been tough on iran and supportive of israel. he will undergo several one-on- one meetings with senators and face tough questions in a confrontation meeting. kyla campbell, ktvu channel 2 news. >> thank you, kyla. >>> 8:15. the next nomination president obama is expected to make is white house receive of staff lack lieu to replace geithner. in if he's confirmed lieu's first priority would be to work with congress to raise the debt ceilin
hagel says the pentagon budget is bloated. some democrats and gop members don't think he will support israel, one of our nation's allies that's come under attack from terrorist groups and leaders on both sides of the aisle criticize his toughness when it comes to cracking down on iran. >> i consider him to be an honorable man with a distinguished record of service, but also at the same time profoundly wrong on some of the biggest national security threats confronting the united states...
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they don't want to cut the pentagon or social security or medicare. so the final point i would make on that is that the president is on strong ground if he is defending social security as a strong ground, the public is saying not to touch it, but there is a sense to cut something and what is going to happen most often is cuts to people who are nmost vulnerable and don't have a voice in washington. >> and the one most difficult to cut is the one because it is not a vested program, because one of the solutions that we hear it to is okay, just a means tested program for poor seenerer yos, but we know politically as soon as you strip the middle-class folks of it, you have taken all of the political juice out of it, and the key is to make sure that it is a non-means tested program. >> and it is not the only conservatives say, well, it should be individual responsibility to save for the retirement and social security does not preclude you from ta doing, but it provides a basic minimum and people might have a pension if you are lucky, and not so much anymore
they don't want to cut the pentagon or social security or medicare. so the final point i would make on that is that the president is on strong ground if he is defending social security as a strong ground, the public is saying not to touch it, but there is a sense to cut something and what is going to happen most often is cuts to people who are nmost vulnerable and don't have a voice in washington. >> and the one most difficult to cut is the one because it is not a vested program, because...
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chris lawrence is our pentagon correspondent. chris, hamid karzai did get something very significant from the president of the united states as far as what he sees as his sovereign right. >> that's right. it is getting the prisons that the u.s. military operates turned back over to the afghans and getting the afghan prisoners turned back other to -- >> prisoners being held by the united states in afghanistan or the other nato allies, they will be handed over to the afghans. >> right. as we reported last night, on "the situation room" and earlier today, our sources were telling us, that was what was very important to karzai in terms of sovereignty. he wasn't as caught up on giving sort of the legal protection to u.s. troops. of course we heard him signal to president obama basically he's on board with that, he would get the okay from the afghan people, but in all respects, i think, gloria, you would say he pretty much gave the okay. >> he did. he made it very clear. he said if those issues are resolved, i can go to the afghan peop
chris lawrence is our pentagon correspondent. chris, hamid karzai did get something very significant from the president of the united states as far as what he sees as his sovereign right. >> that's right. it is getting the prisons that the u.s. military operates turned back over to the afghans and getting the afghan prisoners turned back other to -- >> prisoners being held by the united states in afghanistan or the other nato allies, they will be handed over to the afghans. >>...
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that's according to a new plan submitted to the pentagon. now, the low-end option would leave about 6500 troops from afghanistan for counterterrorism operations. while the bigger option would leave 15,000 troops to help train afghan security forces. the plans are now waiting for official approval from the defense secretary. >>> it is 7:48. a new series of ads featuring the word "jihad" is getting a lot of attention. the ads are sponsored by the council on american islamic organizations. the organization says the word is misunderstood by most americans. people we talked with certainly had negative impressions of the word. >> a group of islamic people who are the bad guys. >> it means a -- it's killing people. >> the sponsors of the ad say gee maude actually means a struggle -- jihad actually means a struggle to be better. another definition says it's a holy war to defend or spread religious beliefs. >>> former arizona congresswoman gabrielle giffords will reportedly visit newtown, connecticut today. she's expected to meet with the families --
that's according to a new plan submitted to the pentagon. now, the low-end option would leave about 6500 troops from afghanistan for counterterrorism operations. while the bigger option would leave 15,000 troops to help train afghan security forces. the plans are now waiting for official approval from the defense secretary. >>> it is 7:48. a new series of ads featuring the word "jihad" is getting a lot of attention. the ads are sponsored by the council on american islamic...
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he would be succeeding leon panetta at the pentagon. again, nbc news confirming that chuck hagel will in fact get that nomination tomorrow from the president at white house. law enforcement on both sides of the aisle meanwhile have been saying that chuck hagel simply the wrong choice. >> frankly, chuck hagel is out of the mainstream of thinking i believe on most issues regarding foreign policy. i expect the president to nominate people than i would think. i'm going to vote for senator kerry. i don't agree with him a lot, but i think he's very much in the mainstream of thought. chuck hagel, if confirmed to be secretary of defense, would be the most antagonistic secretary of defense towards state of israel in our nation's history. >> with me now new york democratic congressman elliot engel, ranking member of the house foreign affairs committee as well. congressman, i'm guessing you don't probably agree with lindsey graham a whole lot, but you have also expressed some similar concerns about chuck hagel. what are they? >> let me say this. i
he would be succeeding leon panetta at the pentagon. again, nbc news confirming that chuck hagel will in fact get that nomination tomorrow from the president at white house. law enforcement on both sides of the aisle meanwhile have been saying that chuck hagel simply the wrong choice. >> frankly, chuck hagel is out of the mainstream of thinking i believe on most issues regarding foreign policy. i expect the president to nominate people than i would think. i'm going to vote for senator...
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. >>> afghanistan's president, hamid karzai, will receive full military honors when he visits the pentagon this morning for a meeting with defense secretary leon panetta. he is expected they will -- or it's expected that they will discuss the american troop situation in afghanistan after the nato combat mission officially ends next year. tomorrow karzai meets with president obama. >>> all right, so it won't take long to cover the entire list of new inductees to baseball's hall of fame because there are none. one of the big reasons, of course, the steroid era. baseball writers voted to keep roger clemens, barry bonds and sammy sosa out of the hall of fame for now. i think the biggest injustice was to craig biggio. he came the closest. i think next year he'll get in. >>> check out this fan during last night's college basketball game. look, he shoved unlv guard anthony marshall after he stepped out of bounds chasing a loose ball. fortunately the ref was able to restrain marshall and the fan was escorted out of the building. >> not a good idea to shove the players. >> i was wondering if he was
. >>> afghanistan's president, hamid karzai, will receive full military honors when he visits the pentagon this morning for a meeting with defense secretary leon panetta. he is expected they will -- or it's expected that they will discuss the american troop situation in afghanistan after the nato combat mission officially ends next year. tomorrow karzai meets with president obama. >>> all right, so it won't take long to cover the entire list of new inductees to baseball's hall...
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this is the time when we get to see what president obama's agenda is at the state department and the pentagon. i think these choices are perfect. >> and the republicans went after. and they're now saying she was never up to the position anyway. >> reid, what you were saying, the white house response to all of this, do they really care or are they going with the people the president wants to work with? >> i think they do care certainly about projecting diversity and and sort of an alternate inclusion in the cabinet and the white house, and i think the record is pretty clear. i mean, look, this president's legacy will be defined by people like hillary clinton and sonia sotomayor and elena kagan and whoever else he appoints. >> this is really about obama.2 where he will do his best. >> you guys, here's the deal. we have to go. we'll hear the rest on the other side of the break. what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies.
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blue line trains will not run between pentagon and rosslyn until closingight sunday. buses will be available singleins will be the red along parts of and green line. the early flu season is taking a region.our hospital emergency rooms are and there are long at pharmacies and clinics offering the flu vaccine. inschannel 8 will have more depth report at the top of the hour. i-395 is quiet and all the trains are all on time. with a problem with the water break. this is video from the water break in the west hyattsville yes at queens chapel road. westbound at 295/b w parkway has an accident gone. >> is a beautiful star of this morning, a little sliver of cloudiness,ween the degrees and we are starting day mild. you can see scattered sprinkles trying to make their way in from the west. amount to much this morning but more significant expected this afternoon betweenr highs will be 47-53 but a warm weekend, into the 60's. we will be back at 8:27. [ cheers and applause ] >>> fans of robin right out there in times square this morning. big shoutout to her. d.j. ms. nix on deeja
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let's not target only the pentagon and hospitals and doctors, which is what the sequester targets, but let's make smarter spending cuts to affect everybody from all walks of life, including corporate world and therefore we can do something to give our children a better future with less debt on their shoulders. that's the smarter card for the republicans to play. >> let me switch to you, james, on the chuck hagel nomination to be the next defense secretary. there's been some quiet murmuring, some complaining among democrats, not unusual, i should say. you've heard it as well. why can't a democratic president ask a democrat to be defense secretary? they go back to the clinton administration when president clinton invited william cohen, a republican to be defense secretary. then the obama administration, president obama asked robert gates, a republican to be defense secretary. then there was leon panetta. and now another republican, chuck hagel. what's wrong with democrats being defense secretary? >> right. actually, just as an historical footnote, roberts used to be a republican. you kno
let's not target only the pentagon and hospitals and doctors, which is what the sequester targets, but let's make smarter spending cuts to affect everybody from all walks of life, including corporate world and therefore we can do something to give our children a better future with less debt on their shoulders. that's the smarter card for the republicans to play. >> let me switch to you, james, on the chuck hagel nomination to be the next defense secretary. there's been some quiet...
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we already have a current democrat, former house member leon panetta, sitting over it at the pentagon. listen, the president is allowed to nominate whomever he wants. however, the senate is also allowed to say yes or no. if the senate wants to castigate and say no to one of their own, they are certainly welcome to do that. but i don't care if a president -- and, listen, barack obama has had republican cabinet members. george bush had democratic cabinet members. i like bipartisanship. i would like to see more of it. i think we need more diversity in the next cabinet, and so far what we're seeing is a lot of white men, but the president is allowed to pick whom he chooses, and if he chooses a former republican senator to be his next secretary of defense, the senate ought to have a hearing, investigate it, and give it an up or down vote, period. >> chip, in terms of the bipartisan appeal, do you think that is a significant factor here? do you think by doing this the president tries to rise above the rancor that exists on capitol hill? >> trying to do bipartisan support by nominating a for
we already have a current democrat, former house member leon panetta, sitting over it at the pentagon. listen, the president is allowed to nominate whomever he wants. however, the senate is also allowed to say yes or no. if the senate wants to castigate and say no to one of their own, they are certainly welcome to do that. but i don't care if a president -- and, listen, barack obama has had republican cabinet members. george bush had democratic cabinet members. i like bipartisanship. i would...
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where is he on the big spending issues coming forward on the pentagon? we don't know, and that's not a good sign in light of the debt crisis we face. >>brian: you told me at the break, we salute him for the service he's given to the country but you don't think he's right for secretary of defense. >> he would be great for the department of veterans affairs. he pushed the g.i. bill. we give him credit for that completely. secretary of defense requires someone with a clear vision, with some nuance on defense policy in light of the spending crisis we're in right now and forceful support of the united states military and its allies. that's not chuck hagel. >>brian: thanks so much. we'll see hout proceedings -- how the proceedings go forward. anything but smooth even if he does get confirmed. >>> it's a story we've been following. a newspaper revealing the names of legal gun owners including cops. doesn't that put their lives at risk? remember the cash for clunkers program. turns out it was a train wreck. brand-new evidence ahead. ♪ this happy couple used ca
where is he on the big spending issues coming forward on the pentagon? we don't know, and that's not a good sign in light of the debt crisis we face. >>brian: you told me at the break, we salute him for the service he's given to the country but you don't think he's right for secretary of defense. >> he would be great for the department of veterans affairs. he pushed the g.i. bill. we give him credit for that completely. secretary of defense requires someone with a clear vision, with...